26 responses so far ↓

• 1 Alahazrat hajiagha // Sep 27, 2007 at 1:28 am

  wondeful documentary. good job

• 2 Ali (Iran Supercars) // Sep 27, 2007 at 2:30 am

  Mani joon,

  I was very much impressed with the footage and audio obtained for this documentary. I am sure it was very hard to find. Are you able to tell us where you obtained this and how you are certain it’s never been seen before?

  Merci and keep up the good work
  PS: The music was great as well.
  -Ali

• 3 admin // Sep 27, 2007 at 2:44 am

  Hi Ali Jaan,

  Thanks for your comment. We have an extensive library at bebin.tv which we have acquired from several networks and private collectors in Europe and the Middle East.

  As to your other question - I have actually changed the wording to “rarely seen footage”, just to be on the safe side.

  Thanks for watching!

• 4 Mohammad // Sep 27, 2007 at 2:47 am

  Great job on the Iran-Iraq war. I have to say that for being a young, hip, new age show, you guys went above and beyond by providing the young Iranians with a bit of history. Also you maintained your objectivity. Even though alot of us Iranians who live in the US, do not like this current regime, you were able to show how Iranians, regardless of their political beliefs join forces to defend their homeland. Again great job on providing this type of footage for your viewers and respecting the memory of those who gave their blood for Iran. I think Iranian TV programs should follow your example of news and historical reporting!

• 5 badragheh // Sep 27, 2007 at 5:50 am

  Dear Mani,
  I remember the red alarm of attack when I was kid and I feel really upset whenever I hear about the war, but it help us not to forget the courage of the people who defend our country.
  actually it was a different program by Bebin.tv and I like it and thanks for making this program.

  Bebin.Tv and all Persians should help to avoid any other war happening in our country.
  Regards
  Badragheh

• 6 Mani // Sep 27, 2007 at 11:43 am

  Salam va Dorood!
  I am very happy and pleased to read that all of you somehow related to this program. It is an unfortunate chapter of our nations history that even among Iranians has gone unseen and unreported due to the political situation of our country which really doesn’t do justice to all the lost souls!

  /Mani

• 7 Omead // Sep 27, 2007 at 1:18 pm

  Your programs like this are awesome. You guys are all awesome. Keep it up!

• 8 Nima // Sep 27, 2007 at 2:30 pm

  zendebad iran.

• 9 Bobby // Sep 27, 2007 at 5:57 pm

  Thanks for adding this video now i have a clear version about that war

• 10 Jafar // Sep 27, 2007 at 6:53 pm

  Hello Guys!

  Your so called documentary program about Iran-Iraq war which was the longest classical war of century, was actually very poor and somehow disgusting! maybe living in United States and watching CBS and FOX news made you guys to talk like that about that grate war of Iranian History! What do you mean by JANGE BI NATIJE!!! this war maybe had to result for Iraq but do not forget that we were under the attack and therefore defending our land was resulted so you cant say jange bi natije. Secondly you know very well that countries like Germany, britain and USA got what they were looking for, I mean stopping IRANIAN REVOLUTION EXPORT to the midle east. Thridly your program was in style of BBC programs about IRAN-IRAQ war!!! your were talikg about the war from third person ppoint of view, i could not see your ”Iranian” sense. You easily eliminated all the braveness of Iranian soldiers, all that epics that make you to call bebin tv for IRANIANS, they defended your land by their last drop of bloods to the last breath, but you did not mention them at all which was very disappointing from you guys!

• 11 Mohammad // Sep 27, 2007 at 8:27 pm

  In Response to Jafar:
  I had family members who served in that war and had an uncle who was wounded 4 times, very serverely. After he was healed each time, he went back. I do not think the intent of these guys was to show that Iran won or Iraq won, but it was their intent to show the atrocities and destruction that wars cause. I think they mentioned that even though the military was in disarray, the people joined forces and fought for Iran. The images that they showed were not in anyway disrespectful. Also after 1982 when all the lands of Iran was taken back and Iraq was defeated, Saddam offered a ceasefire, however, Khomeini wanted the war to continue. So in this regard, the next 6 years of the jang was binatije, because Iran did not conquer any lands and Tehran was bombarded (my family and I were there during those bombardments and every night, we slept in fear and had to wake up at a moments notice to leave and go into a safe area….many families went through this). The economy was completely in ruins and to this day, it has not bounced back and people are still suffering from the chemical weapons attacks. So you tell me, what was the natije? We lost so many men and boys who today could have doctors, engineers, lawyers, and a foundation to Iranians, yet they were killed, because a certain few wanted to export their ideals to other places they were not welcome. I feel this was an important aspect of our history because it shows the Iranian spirit of courage, sacrifice, and honor; however, we have to also ask ourselves, was this war worth 8 years? Was the idea of exporting a revolution more important than the lives of thousands of Iranian men, women, and children?

• 12 maysam // Sep 28, 2007 at 12:55 am

  Impressive, but you forgot that USA navy attacked Iran Air line and killed 250 civil at the end.

• 13 ali(vancouver) // Sep 28, 2007 at 4:26 am

  vaghti iran o iraq dargire jang boodan yaser arafat e felestini az hamin saddam e goor begoor shode hemayat mikard .oonvaght ma sange felestino bedel mizanim!! ajab mellati hastim vaghean

• 14 Jafar // Sep 28, 2007 at 10:19 am

  In response to Mohammad:

  I was born in Ahwaz, the pars hospital which is besid the Karoon river. My mam is from Abadan and we spend all our time in Ahwaz for the war period. YOU and people like you claim that the 6 years war after the liberation of khoramshahr was unreasonable or ”bi natije”!!! unfortunately you say that without even thinking who was saddam and what was his actual nature. Mani said on his program that because Iran did not accept the ceasefire they could not claim for ay financial loss caused by saddam. But please tell me if on that time iran was accepting the ceasefire and was taking the troops backs to their defensive position:

  1: what was the gurantee that saddam or his damn arabic freinds like kuwait and KSA would pay anything to Iran? can you trust to saddam and his rejim who even id not show mercy to his own people? and what about security council which is always a pupit of USA and U.K , would you believe that they force saddam to p ay any thing to iran?

  2: and what if saddam was preparing himself for another attack? again would you trust saddam words? for God sake every body know how this dead man and his damn rejim lie about everything!

  Therefote ll the 8 years was was not be natije and binatije is the thought of people who try to change the truth!

  Long live Iran

• 15 Mehran // Sep 28, 2007 at 11:30 am

  Jafar,

  The reason the war took longer than it did was only because of the Islamic Regime wanting to march on to take Baghdad and then on to Jerusalem.

  Nothing to do with Saddam wanting to attack again and … if that was the case why did Iran agree to a ceasefire at the end? why did the Iranian choose to trust the Iraqis then and not before?]

  So many lives were lost, so many brave young men lost their lives for us to FREE Baghdad and Jerusalem….

• 16 Mike // Sep 28, 2007 at 2:17 pm

  H Everyone….

  Wao… well I’m glad this program has created some discussion.

  I feel the need to address one of Jaffar’s points quickly, as I see it hasn’t been addressed yet.

  You mentioned that the program was done similar to the BBC, from a third person perspective, rather then to do it in an “Iranian” sense.

  I am happy to see that you actually caught on to that. We very much intended to present the story, from a historical fact perspective, and not from an emotional sense.

  Yes, as Iranians, we all know the sacrifices Iranians suffered. My family and I where in Ahwaz when the war started. However, Iranian media, unfortunately, has never provided an objective report on this. Either the videos are used as propaganda or they are addressing specific political opinions.

  We really wanted to create a piece that was historically accurate and was objective. The BBC’s style of reporting, in third person as you noted, is as close as it gets to being objective from a reporting perspective.

  Lastly, I thank you for taking the time to write and engage in these discussions, and we at bebin.tv appreciate all the feedback

• 17 Mohammad // Sep 29, 2007 at 2:51 am

  I would like to respond to Jafar:

  Nobody is disrespecting the lost lives of our soldiers and the families that lost loved ones in the war. Also I know what saddam was capable of and who his friends were. Its interesting to me that you call Kuwait and KSA damn arabs, but yet you sound like you supported the Islamic Revolution (check your previous statement and correct me if I am wrong, and if I am, I take back my statement…no hard feelings), whose purpose was to get rid of our persian culture and turn it into a religious arabic one (I consider myself a muslim by the way and have alot of respect for Islam; but I do not feel that religion should in anyway be mixed with politics). Also I agree with Ali’s statement about Arafat (who wholeheartedly supported saddam because he was Sunni). saddam was an evil and cruel dictator who should have been hanged long ago; but let us not forget that it was the Islamic Republic who 4 years later allowed iraq to park their planes on Iranian territory during operation Desert storm in 1992. Also lets not forget the visit by tariq aziz to iran, who wanted iran to support the iraqis. Also in 2002 or 2003, months before america was going to attack iraq; iraq’s foreign minister made a visit to Iran seeking Iranian support and he got a nice red carpet treatment. I ask you: is this the way the Islamic Republic shows its respect for the Shohada (the martyrs of the war)? Why is it that most of the soldiers who suffered severe wounds and served the longest during the war, are living in such improvished conditions. How come they are treated like outcasts and thrown aside in society? Also in regards to Ahwaz…why is it one the most improvished provinces in Iran, when so many Ahwazi’s defended that land and took back Khorramshahr?
  Jafar, again I understand your feelings toward this war and respect you for being a true Iranian patriot and also answering me in a friendly, but not insulting tone. Even though we may disagree in some of our views, to me you are a man of respect.

• 18 Jafar // Sep 30, 2007 at 1:20 am

  To mohammad:

  It may be very interesting to you to know:

  1: I am half Arabic and half Persian!!!
  2: I do not hate Arabs but i hate their governments
  3: For some reason I support Islamic Republic Foreign policy and some of their national policies!!!

  4: It is more interesting to you that my father is IRAQI-ARABIC from city of Basra!!!!!!!!

• 19 Tannaz // Sep 30, 2007 at 6:02 pm

  It’s interesting to see that non of our “soldiers” had the Iranian flag with them. The only flag that was shown was the flag of Islam….

• 20 Mohammad // Sep 30, 2007 at 8:02 pm

  Jafar:

  That is interesting. I feel you on the Arab governments, but my friend, the Islamic Republic is the same as those governments. I think it is up to the people of the Middle East to make a change for themselves.
  Actually in regards to your father, Iran and Iraq have very close familial ties. Two of my good friends, their families come from the region where your father is from, Basra and the other from Najaf. I mean Ayatollah Sistani is Iranian born. I guess in the end we are all brotha’s from anotha!

• 21 Jafar // Sep 30, 2007 at 11:33 pm

  To Tannaz:

  For any war, you need to motivate your soldiers by any using anything! Like it or not, Islam (shia and Imam Hussain issues) is one of the most strongest Iranian identities where all the Iranians (Persians, Kurds,Turks and Arabs) are agree on it and also IRAN which is other aspect of each true Iranian personalities. During the war Iranian soldiers had frequently used the islamic flags like Ya hussian or others but at the end wWHENEVER IRAN HAD A VECTORY IT WAS THE IRANIAN FLAG WHICH WAS WAVING like the iranian flag on the top of khoramshahr mosque!!!!

• 22 shahram // Oct 1, 2007 at 5:31 am

  Check this out, Britsh MPs visiting the Pentagon to discuss America’s stance on Iran and Iraq were told by one of President Bush’s senior women officials: “I hate all Iranians.” Check out the article at: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=484762&in_page_id=1770 . I guess stupidity runs in the administration!!

• 23 Shahram // Oct 2, 2007 at 7:09 pm

  It is al a Game for Power .
  Our people died in that war to give us a choice:
  Living under a Arab lover Regime in place of
  Living under a Arabic dictator.
  What did we really get from that war? Freedom?
  Freedom is an illusion.
  However, deep Respect for those ,who gave there life to secure our country.
  May there soul rest in peace.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War

• 24 Reza // Oct 2, 2007 at 8:42 pm

  Can anyone tell me the name of the song and the singer in the middle of the clip?
  I would appreciate it !

• 25 Raha // Oct 3, 2007 at 3:45 pm

  To Reza

  Singer: Koveytipour

  Song: Change Del

  Album: Gharibaneh

  Take care

• 26 nazly khalili // Dec 20, 2007 at 10:30 pm

  salam man taze omadam be vancouver .mishe lotfan begid iraniha dar vancouver shabe yalda koja jam mishan va adres behem bedin mamnon misham .

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